Senate Committee on Educational Policy
Mintues
January 23, 2012

Present: Gay Miller, Chair; Paul Diehl, Trevor Eagle, Bettina Francis, Phillip Geil, Shana Harrison, Michael Krassa, Jerome McDonough, Steve Michael, Catherine Murphy, Thomas Nevins, Paul Prior

Ex Officio: Brenda Clevenger, Andrea Golato, Kristi Kuntz, Faye Lesht, Charles Tucker, Stacey Kostell

Guests: Christi Avgar (SSW), Peggy Grossman (ACES), Brenda Lindsey (SSW), Carol Livingstone, Carol Malmgren, Diane Musumeci, Lucy Rich, Cheryl Street (SSW)

A regular meeting of the Senate Committee on Educational Policy (EPC) was called to order at 1:10 pm, on Monday, January 23, 2012 in 232 English Building, with Chair Miller presiding.

  1. Introductions – none

  2. Approval of Minutes – The minutes from November 14, 2011were approved as corrected.

  3. Chair’s Remarks (G. Miller) - Chair Miller discussed the Open Meetings Act and noted that she would do further research on the requirements.

  4. Provost’s Office Updates (K. Kuntz) - The Provost Office’s concern about proposal EP.12.19 has been resolved and the committee can move forward with their review.

  5. Graduate College Updates (A. Golato) - No updates were reported.

  6. Old Business

    1. Subcommittee A—Michael Krassa, Chair; Cody Chalkey, Brenda Clevenger, Prasanta Kalita, Stacey Kostell, Catherine Murphy
      1. EP.12.19 Proposal from the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences to establish the Bachelor of Science in Liberal Arts and Sciences Degree (BSLAS) in Computer Science and (LAS discipline).

        Krassa reported that minor revisions had been requested from the sponsor. Revisions and letters were received from the sponsor and all concerns have been resolved.

        It was asked what tuition rate would be assessed, and was determined that the Engineering tuition rate would be assessed. Freshman can enroll, but it is expected that most students would enroll later on. Krassa moved approval of EP12.19 and was approved by voice.

      2. EP.12.20 Proposal from the College of Agricultural, Consumer, and Environmental Sciences (ACES) to establish a new minor in International Development Economics. Krassa requested minor changes from the sponsors and a letter from the Library and the Economics Department. All changes were made and the letters were received.

        Krassa moved approval of EP.12.20, and was approved by voice.

    2. Subcommittee B—Phillip Geil, Chair; Trevor Eagle, Andrea Golato, Shana Harrison, Jerome McDonough, Steve Michael, Paul Prior, Charles Tucker
      1. EP.12.12 Proposal from the Graduate College and the College of Education to establish the Educational Technology for Teaching, Learning, and Leadership concentration in the Ed.M. in Educational Psychology.

        Geil reported that the sponsor has not responded to inquires at this time.

      2. EP.12.17 Proposal from the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences to revise the BSLAS Physics Concentration. Geil reported that the changes made were acceptable. The sponsor revised and added the hours for individual courses.

        Geil moved approval of EP.12.17, and was approved by voice.

      3. EP.12.21 Proposal from the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences to revise the minor in Communication. Geil noted that this proposal was not ready for discussion at this time.
    3. Subcommittee C—Bettina Francis, Chair; Damani Bolden, Paul Diehl, Kristi Kuntz, Faye Lesht, Chris Royer
      1. EP.12.14 Proposal from the Graduate College and the College of Education to terminate the eLearning concentration in the Ed.M. in Human Resource Education.

        Geil reported that the sponsor has not responded to inquires at this time.

      2. EP.12.16 Proposal from the School of Social Work to revise the Bachelor of Social Work degree program.

      Christi Avgar, Brenda Lindsey, and Cheryl Street were present from the School of Social Work to answer questions about proposal EP.12.16.

      Lindsey distributed a revised Program of Study for Bachelors of Social Work Degree that replaces the original two pages in the proposal. She noted that the students come into the Social Work program in their junior year. As a junior/senior program, Social Work does not have control over courses taken prior to admittance and are unable to advise the students before they begin this program as a junior. The designation of “pre-professional courses” has been changed to “supporting course work”.
      Lindsey noted that foreign language is important in the social work field. There is a huge demand, but the reality is that the last semester is for the internship so the requirement was reduced from 4 semesters to 3 to accommodate students coming in without any foreign language.
      Diehl asked what portion of students coming into the Social Work program have taken SOC200? Lindsey responded that most students this year had taken this course before entering the program. For internships, there is nothing preventing them from being paid, but are almost always unpaid.  
      After receiving this additional information from the School of Social Work, Francis moved approval of EP.12.16, and was approved by voice.

      1. EP.12.18 Proposal from the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences to revise the Specialized Curriculum in Physics (BS in Physics). All changes that were suggested to the sponsor have been made.

      Geil moved approval of EP.12.18, and was approved by voice.

    1. GC511 Request from the Graduate College to establish the new course, Grant writing: Social Sciences.

    Normally the Graduate College serves as the second reviewer for courses, but this course is held at the Graduate College so EPC is acting as the second reviewer. Golato noted that this course offers grant writing by working one-on-one with students applying for specific grants. This course offers more than what is covered at the typical grant writing workshop, and is meeting student’s needs.

    Prior asked if the college level was appropriate to hold these types of courses. Diehl noted that this course may serve students that would not otherwise have access. This is more intense than a workshop in that it targets a specific grant that the student is applying for. Murphy asked why various departments would not have a number of cross-listed courses instead of holding this course at the college level.  Francis stated that the course might better be publicized at the college level, or that it might be difficult to cross-reference. Livingstone confirmed that once a course is created it can then be cross-listed.

    Geil raised questions about this course being similar to what a student would write for their prelim. Credit is not normally given for prelim so why would it be giving in the case? Golato responded that prelims look different across departments. Some departments require a student to write three chapters of their dissertation, some departments give an exam, others ask for a proposal only (and some departments allow students to get credit for the preparatory work for the prelim).
    Francis noted the importance of students having grant writing skills. Eagle expressed positive comments on the concept of the course, but felt the grading rubric was flawed. It was also noted that this course is equivalent to a professional development course and should therefore be satisfactory/unsatisfactory and not a graded course. Golato responded that she did not have an issue requesting the letter grade being changed to satisfactory/unsatisfactory. 

    Francis moved that GC511 be put on hold pending sponsor revisions. The motion passed by voice.

    1. GC550 Request from the Graduate College to establish the new course, Preparing Future Faculty.

    Francis noted that she shares the same concerns for GC550 that she did for GC511. Golato noted that letters of support were not needed because departments would give support by nominating faculty to instruct this course. Francis added that since the course would cross colleges that it might be easier for the Graduate College to handle this course.

    Geil expressed his concern over the poorly written syllabus. McDonough added that there is nothing indicating that this is just for the life sciences. Students maybe register and then realize this course is not appropriate. Golato indicated that this syllabus may not be the one actually used. Geil felt that the syllabus was unclear and even if it was not the exact one used, it should be easily understandable.

    Francis moved to defer action until revisions were received. The motion passed by voice.

  7. New Business
    1. Subcommittee A—(M. Krassa)
    2. Subcommittee B—(P. Geil)
    3. Subcommittee C— (B. Francis)
    4. Ad Hoc Subcommittee – Paul Prior, Chair; Phil Geil, Kristi Kuntz, Faye Lesht, Lucy Rich

    Determining the minimum amount of course work that is required for a minor and the implications.

    Prior reported that the ad hoc subcommittee was still gathering information and not ready to report to the whole committee at this time.

  8. Other New Business
    1. Questions and Answers to the presentation on Academic issues and initiatives for international undergraduates – (C. Tucker)

    Tucker gave an overview of the presentation that he gave at the last meeting to refresh those who were in attendance and recap for those who were not able to attend last time. He then invited questions about his presentation.
    Murphy asked if there were any academic integrity issues. Tucker replied that yes, there are issues and engineering is tracking the number of academic integrity cases. We try to make students aware of what is expected here and in this culture. Golato noted that the Graduate College has addressed many of these issues. Rich noted that some incoming international students falsify their transcript information. Steve Michael felt that it was not clear what the University is gaining by achieving diversity from international students. Tucker replied that the kind of admissions standards that we are looking for in-state and out-of-state domestic are about the same. The international students have higher admissions standards. If the domestic students do not meet the standards, then the best applicants are taken from the pool and those tend to be the international students.

    Michael asked if there are there domestic programs for math like there are ESL for international students. Tucker replied that yes, Engineering has a bridge program, and some are also offered in LAS. McDonough asked if there a plan to offer more undergraduate resources for writing? Tucker stated that there is a plan to offer more writing resources, and that international students tend to have different needs than domestic students. International students tend to use career services and writing services more than domestic students once the perceived stigma is overcome.

  9. Adjournment - The meeting adjourned at 2:48 pm.

Jenny Roether
Senate Staff